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		<title>Comment on What Exactly IS the Unadvertised Job Market and WHY Should I Care? Part II by Randall Arnold</title>
		<link>http://maryelizabethbradford.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/what-exactly-is-the-unadvertised-job-market-and-why-should-i-care-part-ii/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the prompt reply.

So far Google has been little help in identifying employees... I tend to only find CEO, CFO, etc.  Not people to bother with my requests.

LinkedIn has been much better.  I have actually made some contacts that got my resume in front of hiring managers.  But that&#039;s been on advertised jobs.  I&#039;ve noticed that when I &quot;fish&quot; for anything unadvertised the sense I get is that anyone I speak with feels put out.

I&#039;ve been laid off several times due to my stupid persistence in chasing the last bit of product work out of the US (sigh).  Up until the 2002 loss event, it had been relatively easy getting at interviews, job offers, and even unadvertised jobs.  That changed abruptly at that time.  Suddenly companies and third party recruiters were erecting major barriers to employment.  I was out of work 9 months despite extreme stubbornness, massive networking and over 200 applications.

After close to 80 applications now since losing my last position a month and half ago, I am seeing that it&#039;s even worse now.  Even commissioned recruiters are not returning calls or emails.

The good news is that I was just alerted to an unadvertised job by a good friend and former colleague who I know will help me out.  But I&#039;m still skeptical (please don&#039;t take that personally) about contacting companies out of the blue... so far my experience there has been almost completely negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the prompt reply.</p>
<p>So far Google has been little help in identifying employees&#8230; I tend to only find CEO, CFO, etc.  Not people to bother with my requests.</p>
<p>LinkedIn has been much better.  I have actually made some contacts that got my resume in front of hiring managers.  But that&#8217;s been on advertised jobs.  I&#8217;ve noticed that when I &#8220;fish&#8221; for anything unadvertised the sense I get is that anyone I speak with feels put out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been laid off several times due to my stupid persistence in chasing the last bit of product work out of the US (sigh).  Up until the 2002 loss event, it had been relatively easy getting at interviews, job offers, and even unadvertised jobs.  That changed abruptly at that time.  Suddenly companies and third party recruiters were erecting major barriers to employment.  I was out of work 9 months despite extreme stubbornness, massive networking and over 200 applications.</p>
<p>After close to 80 applications now since losing my last position a month and half ago, I am seeing that it&#8217;s even worse now.  Even commissioned recruiters are not returning calls or emails.</p>
<p>The good news is that I was just alerted to an unadvertised job by a good friend and former colleague who I know will help me out.  But I&#8217;m still skeptical (please don&#8217;t take that personally) about contacting companies out of the blue&#8230; so far my experience there has been almost completely negative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Exactly IS the Unadvertised Job Market and WHY Should I Care? Part II by careerartisan</title>
		<link>http://maryelizabethbradford.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/what-exactly-is-the-unadvertised-job-market-and-why-should-i-care-part-ii/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>careerartisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Randall,

Great question. Fortunately, there is an answer. First you want to restructure your search to follow up with a decision maker - preferably not HR - though in some cases its either required or appropriate. Finding decision maker names is relatively easy if you know where to look. Try Google and also I really like zoominfo.com.

When you follow up the trick is to ask for the person and avoid elaborating on the nature of your call. If you are interested, I show you how to do this - step by step and provide phone scripts as well in both my eBooks titled: Secrets of the Unadvertised Job Market Revealed and Phone Networking Secrets Revealed. You can find them on my site under the products and services section. I hope that helps you!
-meb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Randall,</p>
<p>Great question. Fortunately, there is an answer. First you want to restructure your search to follow up with a decision maker &#8211; preferably not HR &#8211; though in some cases its either required or appropriate. Finding decision maker names is relatively easy if you know where to look. Try Google and also I really like zoominfo.com.</p>
<p>When you follow up the trick is to ask for the person and avoid elaborating on the nature of your call. If you are interested, I show you how to do this &#8211; step by step and provide phone scripts as well in both my eBooks titled: Secrets of the Unadvertised Job Market Revealed and Phone Networking Secrets Revealed. You can find them on my site under the products and services section. I hope that helps you!<br />
-meb</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Exactly IS the Unadvertised Job Market and WHY Should I Care? Part II by Randall Arnold</title>
		<link>http://maryelizabethbradford.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/what-exactly-is-the-unadvertised-job-market-and-why-should-i-care-part-ii/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you propose as an icebreaker and introduction when direct calling to inquire about unadvertised positions?  And whom do you ask for?

The problem I&#039;ve encountered is that front desks are NOT allowing cold-calling.  If I can&#039;t provide a name, I don&#039;t get through.  One desk attendant told me he will be fired for putting any sort of solicitors through!

So if you know of a way to surmount this common hurdle, I&#039;d love to hear it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you propose as an icebreaker and introduction when direct calling to inquire about unadvertised positions?  And whom do you ask for?</p>
<p>The problem I&#8217;ve encountered is that front desks are NOT allowing cold-calling.  If I can&#8217;t provide a name, I don&#8217;t get through.  One desk attendant told me he will be fired for putting any sort of solicitors through!</p>
<p>So if you know of a way to surmount this common hurdle, I&#8217;d love to hear it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Exactly IS the Unadvertised Job Market and WHY Should I Care? Part I by Randall Arnold</title>
		<link>http://maryelizabethbradford.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/what-exactly-is-the-unadvertised-job-market-and-why-should-i-care-part-i/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to see those tips.  I&#039;m very adept at every tactic except connecting with unadvertised jobs.  I&#039;m usually met with some sort of firewall... so if there are ways past them, I&#039;m all ears!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see those tips.  I&#8217;m very adept at every tactic except connecting with unadvertised jobs.  I&#8217;m usually met with some sort of firewall&#8230; so if there are ways past them, I&#8217;m all ears!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Powerful Tips For Using The Internet To Find Your Next by Richard Baum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Baum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason Alba, JibberJobber.com, recommends using job boards to research industries and companies vs. finding a job. A few minutes per day can give a sense of who, what, when, where, why and how of the job market. Jason spoke at the CDI conference in Seattle recently.

I like job boards for getting job descriptions to write resumes, locating hot job markets, learning about companies and helping clients broaden their career options. 

You make a great point about the percentage of jobs actually obtained through electronic job boards. The ROI is very small compared to networking and other strategies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Alba, JibberJobber.com, recommends using job boards to research industries and companies vs. finding a job. A few minutes per day can give a sense of who, what, when, where, why and how of the job market. Jason spoke at the CDI conference in Seattle recently.</p>
<p>I like job boards for getting job descriptions to write resumes, locating hot job markets, learning about companies and helping clients broaden their career options. </p>
<p>You make a great point about the percentage of jobs actually obtained through electronic job boards. The ROI is very small compared to networking and other strategies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Salary Negotiation Strategies: How to Ask For, and Get More Money / Part I by Richard Baum</title>
		<link>http://maryelizabethbradford.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/salary-negotiation-strategies-how-to-ask-for-and-get-more-money-part-i/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Baum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the recent Career Directors International Conference in Seattle, a panel of HR specialists addressed the money issue.  One HR person for a major coffee company, previously with a major computer operating software company, stated that asking for &quot;time to consider the offer&quot; was a huge red flag to HR. &quot;What do they need time for? If they didn&#039;t want the job why did they go through the process.&quot; It could even result in a withdrawal of the offer. Of course, I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s across the board in HR. 

My personal experience with clients has been positive, when framing the request tactfully. Accept the offer in principle but ask for time to consider the compensation package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the recent Career Directors International Conference in Seattle, a panel of HR specialists addressed the money issue.  One HR person for a major coffee company, previously with a major computer operating software company, stated that asking for &#8220;time to consider the offer&#8221; was a huge red flag to HR. &#8220;What do they need time for? If they didn&#8217;t want the job why did they go through the process.&#8221; It could even result in a withdrawal of the offer. Of course, I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s across the board in HR. </p>
<p>My personal experience with clients has been positive, when framing the request tactfully. Accept the offer in principle but ask for time to consider the compensation package.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Exactly IS the Unadvertised Job Market and WHY Should I Care? Part I by The hidden job market &#171; Career Solutions&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The hidden job market &#171; Career Solutions&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post at Mary Elizabeth Bradford&#8217;s blog examines the issue and provides solid advice on how to tap into the hidden job market. Also check out part two of the article. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post at Mary Elizabeth Bradford&#8217;s blog examines the issue and provides solid advice on how to tap into the hidden job market. Also check out part two of the article. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Executive Resume Tips: Five Common Resume Mistakes by Gary Capone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Capone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your advice on accomplishments is right on. Job seekers are completing with individuals that usually have the same level of experience that they do.  The difference between them comes down to the results they achieved and how they achieved them.  Too many resumes just tell what the person was responsible for - not what they accomplished with that responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your advice on accomplishments is right on. Job seekers are completing with individuals that usually have the same level of experience that they do.  The difference between them comes down to the results they achieved and how they achieved them.  Too many resumes just tell what the person was responsible for &#8211; not what they accomplished with that responsibility.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 Ways To Get You And Your Job Search Out Of A Slump by careerartisan</title>
		<link>http://maryelizabethbradford.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/5-ways-to-get-you-and-your-job-search-out-of-a-slump/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>careerartisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rui Heh that is a really good point. 

I believe its true that one just never knows - there are many factors involved in the timing of a job search. 

Interestingly though - whenever I run up against a situation where someone has been looking for more than 6 months (and they are not a senior exec.), there is inevitably one or two fundamental flaws in their search that once solved - they quickly go on to achieve their goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rui Heh that is a really good point. </p>
<p>I believe its true that one just never knows &#8211; there are many factors involved in the timing of a job search. </p>
<p>Interestingly though &#8211; whenever I run up against a situation where someone has been looking for more than 6 months (and they are not a senior exec.), there is inevitably one or two fundamental flaws in their search that once solved &#8211; they quickly go on to achieve their goals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 Ways To Get You And Your Job Search Out Of A Slump by Rui Heh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rui Heh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the post, just want to add one more line. 

Job search can take a week or a year. There is definitely luck involved in the process. You have to stick to your plan to find the job for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the post, just want to add one more line. </p>
<p>Job search can take a week or a year. There is definitely luck involved in the process. You have to stick to your plan to find the job for you.</p>
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